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	<title>Comments on: Strategy #3: Working with Landlords</title>
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		<title>By: terrie</title>
		<link>http://permacultureforrenters.com/the-p4r-blog/strategy-3-working-with-landlords/comment-page-1/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>terrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great series.

One thing that I think has helped in our case is to try to think in terms of "The problem is the solution."

In our case, we thought about what the back lot meant to our landlord.  It was a fire hazard that he had to pay to mow every year.  When I asked him if we could start using part of that for some fruit trees, I asked about the mowing and offered to take that on for him.

I'm a big fan of "it's better to ask forgiveness than to beg permission."  But sometimes you need to ask in advance.  If you can think of a way to frame the request so that it helps the landlord in someway, it might make a big difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great series.</p>
<p>One thing that I think has helped in our case is to try to think in terms of &#8220;The problem is the solution.&#8221;</p>
<p>In our case, we thought about what the back lot meant to our landlord.  It was a fire hazard that he had to pay to mow every year.  When I asked him if we could start using part of that for some fruit trees, I asked about the mowing and offered to take that on for him.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a big fan of &#8220;it&#8217;s better to ask forgiveness than to beg permission.&#8221;  But sometimes you need to ask in advance.  If you can think of a way to frame the request so that it helps the landlord in someway, it might make a big difference.</p>
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		<title>By: p4r :: permaculture for renters &#124;&#124;7 Strategies for the Landess Many &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator>p4r :: permaculture for renters &#124;&#124;7 Strategies for the Landess Many &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 17:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Choose your living situation wisely. 2. Changing behaviors. 3. Work with your landlord. 4. Work around your landlord. 5. Find public or private land to steward. 6. Creating symbiotic [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Choose your living situation wisely. 2. Changing behaviors. 3. Work with your landlord. 4. Work around your landlord. 5. Find public or private land to steward. 6. Creating symbiotic [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Leonard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like fun David.  You'll have to take me up there for a look at some point.  Rooftop chickens with the Portland skyline in the background would make for some amazing photos!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like fun David.  You&#8217;ll have to take me up there for a look at some point.  Rooftop chickens with the Portland skyline in the background would make for some amazing photos!</p>
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		<title>By: David Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good advice Leonard...practical and sound. Small steps incrementally building up; patience. The building that I am in has a a great roof top area. Last summer I put to our neighbors about planting vegetables up there. A lot of the planter boxes are already full with small shrubs and trees, but a couple were empty. One of my "selling points" was to encourage neighbors to help themselves to the produce. There wasn't much take up on this, but one neighbor joined me in my roof top endeavors. I really sense that last year was a trust building exercise. "Would he follow through with looking after the area the he was being given?" Larger projects could build on that - hey, already there has been discussion about keeping chickens on the roof, but my guess is that we would have to work with the city on that one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good advice Leonard&#8230;practical and sound. Small steps incrementally building up; patience. The building that I am in has a a great roof top area. Last summer I put to our neighbors about planting vegetables up there. A lot of the planter boxes are already full with small shrubs and trees, but a couple were empty. One of my &#8220;selling points&#8221; was to encourage neighbors to help themselves to the produce. There wasn&#8217;t much take up on this, but one neighbor joined me in my roof top endeavors. I really sense that last year was a trust building exercise. &#8220;Would he follow through with looking after the area the he was being given?&#8221; Larger projects could build on that - hey, already there has been discussion about keeping chickens on the roof, but my guess is that we would have to work with the city on that one!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Sanders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Sanders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 21:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is some really solid advice.  Let's hope the "seeds" we are planting on both sides of the landlord-tenant equation grow into expanded permaculture practice.  And thanks for the link back to our greenlording post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is some really solid advice.  Let&#8217;s hope the &#8220;seeds&#8221; we are planting on both sides of the landlord-tenant equation grow into expanded permaculture practice.  And thanks for the link back to our greenlording post.</p>
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