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	<title>Comments on: Strategy #3: Working with Landlords</title>
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		<title>By: terrie</title>
		<link>http://permacultureforrenters.com/the-p4r-blog/strategy-3-working-with-landlords/comment-page-1/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>terrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great series.

One thing that I think has helped in our case is to try to think in terms of &quot;The problem is the solution.&quot;

In our case, we thought about what the back lot meant to our landlord.  It was a fire hazard that he had to pay to mow every year.  When I asked him if we could start using part of that for some fruit trees, I asked about the mowing and offered to take that on for him.

I&#039;m a big fan of &quot;it&#039;s better to ask forgiveness than to beg permission.&quot;  But sometimes you need to ask in advance.  If you can think of a way to frame the request so that it helps the landlord in someway, it might make a big difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great series.</p>
<p>One thing that I think has helped in our case is to try to think in terms of &#8220;The problem is the solution.&#8221;</p>
<p>In our case, we thought about what the back lot meant to our landlord.  It was a fire hazard that he had to pay to mow every year.  When I asked him if we could start using part of that for some fruit trees, I asked about the mowing and offered to take that on for him.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a big fan of &#8220;it&#8217;s better to ask forgiveness than to beg permission.&#8221;  But sometimes you need to ask in advance.  If you can think of a way to frame the request so that it helps the landlord in someway, it might make a big difference.</p>
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		<title>By: p4r :: permaculture for renters &#124;&#124;7 Strategies for the Landess Many &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator>p4r :: permaculture for renters &#124;&#124;7 Strategies for the Landess Many &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 17:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Choose your living situation wisely. 2. Changing behaviors. 3. Work with your landlord. 4. Work around your landlord. 5. Find public or private land to steward. 6. Creating symbiotic [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Choose your living situation wisely. 2. Changing behaviors. 3. Work with your landlord. 4. Work around your landlord. 5. Find public or private land to steward. 6. Creating symbiotic [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Leonard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like fun David.  You&#039;ll have to take me up there for a look at some point.  Rooftop chickens with the Portland skyline in the background would make for some amazing photos!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like fun David.  You&#8217;ll have to take me up there for a look at some point.  Rooftop chickens with the Portland skyline in the background would make for some amazing photos!</p>
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		<title>By: David Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good advice Leonard...practical and sound. Small steps incrementally building up; patience. The building that I am in has a a great roof top area. Last summer I put to our neighbors about planting vegetables up there. A lot of the planter boxes are already full with small shrubs and trees, but a couple were empty. One of my &quot;selling points&quot; was to encourage neighbors to help themselves to the produce. There wasn&#039;t much take up on this, but one neighbor joined me in my roof top endeavors. I really sense that last year was a trust building exercise. &quot;Would he follow through with looking after the area the he was being given?&quot; Larger projects could build on that - hey, already there has been discussion about keeping chickens on the roof, but my guess is that we would have to work with the city on that one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good advice Leonard&#8230;practical and sound. Small steps incrementally building up; patience. The building that I am in has a a great roof top area. Last summer I put to our neighbors about planting vegetables up there. A lot of the planter boxes are already full with small shrubs and trees, but a couple were empty. One of my &#8220;selling points&#8221; was to encourage neighbors to help themselves to the produce. There wasn&#8217;t much take up on this, but one neighbor joined me in my roof top endeavors. I really sense that last year was a trust building exercise. &#8220;Would he follow through with looking after the area the he was being given?&#8221; Larger projects could build on that &#8211; hey, already there has been discussion about keeping chickens on the roof, but my guess is that we would have to work with the city on that one!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Sanders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Sanders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 21:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is some really solid advice.  Let&#039;s hope the &quot;seeds&quot; we are planting on both sides of the landlord-tenant equation grow into expanded permaculture practice.  And thanks for the link back to our greenlording post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is some really solid advice.  Let&#8217;s hope the &#8220;seeds&#8221; we are planting on both sides of the landlord-tenant equation grow into expanded permaculture practice.  And thanks for the link back to our greenlording post.</p>
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